Illinois Spotlight- Blackstone

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Illinois Spotlight- Blackstone

#1 Post by GJH » Tue Sep 18, 2012 4:35 pm

Here is a little fun one that proves you don't have to spend a fortune
to have a really cool looking watch.

The Illinois Blackstone
1930

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I finally got around to getting a YGF version...
To my surprise, I think this one turned out to be closer to Green Gold.

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WGF

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14K WGF
Case number 219
Case maker: Wadsworth
Movement size 6/0
Subs at : 6
Dial with Gold numbers.

Sides (note the beautiful engraving along the sides)

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Retail price when new: $42.50
Price Now: $145 to $395 (WGF/YGF)
Subject to case wear on corners of the bezel (YGF)
Rarity 1/6
(FJF)

Sparkle Dial:

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Movement 607/17J

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One of the few with the Jewel count ON the dial:
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Size:
34 X 27mm
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Back:
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A Sweet Little Illinois... One of my favorites!

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GJH Notes:
A very nice looking watch, for not a lot of money
The dial is very cool with the gold numbers
Not very big on the wrist
Good starter watch with beautiful Art Deco Design
Adam has a WONDERFUL example of this with a metal band in the original box!

ENJOY!
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Re: Illinois Spotlight- Blackstone

#2 Post by afire » Wed Sep 19, 2012 6:27 am

I notice those cases look very clean with little or no wearthrough. Do you Illinois guys find the Wadsworth cases to wear better than Fahys? That's been my general observation.
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Re: Illinois Spotlight- Blackstone

#3 Post by GJH » Wed Sep 19, 2012 11:02 am

afire wrote:I notice those cases look very clean with little or no wearthrough. Do you Illinois guys find the Wadsworth cases to wear better than Fahys? That's been my general observation.
It really depends on the design of the case... Wadsworth made some very tough cases and
depending on where the bezel rubbed against a shirt cuff (in the design) and the amount of daily use. This is where the most wear usually occurs, and along the ridges of the caseback...IMO.
Wear really matters in the final price of the watch for SURE... to fix this problem, some people re-plate the watch, and this usually looks shinny and artificial. I have yet to see a really good re-plating job.
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Re: Illinois Spotlight- Blackstone

#4 Post by adam78 » Thu Sep 20, 2012 9:42 am

OK, Greg, you forced me to this! My yellow Blackstone has what appears to be the original case finish, and is in almost NOS condition. The bracelet was added by the seller, apparently, but appeared to have been unworn (certainly never sized before I had a link removed).

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Re: Illinois Spotlight- Blackstone

#5 Post by HamiltonIllinois » Thu Sep 20, 2012 11:50 am

ALL TERRIFIC!

Does anyone else see the exact same flaw that 4 of these original Blackstone dials seem to always share? When I look at a Blackstone dial it is all I see... perhaps why I only have the other dials.

BTW, all of those Blackstones and not 1 Greystone?
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Re: Illinois Spotlight- Blackstone

#6 Post by indyago » Thu Sep 20, 2012 12:49 pm

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Here is mine, I can't see any flaws in the dials. What am I missing, Rick?
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Re: Illinois Spotlight- Blackstone

#7 Post by afire » Thu Sep 20, 2012 12:51 pm

HamiltonIllinois wrote:Does anyone else see the exact same flaw that 4 of these original Blackstone dials seem to always share?
Didn't notice it before, but are you referring to the "5" running into the seconds track?
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Re: Illinois Spotlight- Blackstone

#8 Post by HamiltonIllinois » Thu Sep 20, 2012 5:36 pm

afire wrote:
HamiltonIllinois wrote:Does anyone else see the exact same flaw that 4 of these original Blackstone dials seem to always share?
Didn't notice it before, but are you referring to the "5" running into the seconds track?
WE HAVE A WINNER! It's only on the embossed/etched raised numeral dial, but it has been every original dial of this kind I've ever seen. This dial is #8281 in the Illinois dial catalog where it is shown like this also, as well as the 2 well-illustrated examples in Fred's book. They seemingly modified the #7 font so as to not have the issue, but the bottom left tip of the #5 always get overprinted by the Sub-6 track. My OCD-mind is bothered by it... so I don't own one. ;)
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Re: Illinois Spotlight- Blackstone

#9 Post by afire » Fri Sep 21, 2012 5:56 am

HamiltonIllinois wrote:My OCD-mind is bothered by it... so I don't own one. ;)
I hear you on that. This particular issue wouldn't bother me on an original dial, although it would on a redial. But I have a mile long checklist of minor pet peeves that I won't stand for in watches, as well as my other interest, vintage guitars. The funny thing is, I've sold so many watches and guitars that had issues that irked me to no end, yet I've never once had a buyer unhappy with the purchase. I get the sense that my pickiness is keeping me from things I could be enjoying! That said, the stuff I do hold on to tends to be pretty nice, and that's not a bad thing either.
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Re: Illinois Spotlight- Blackstone

#10 Post by adam78 » Fri Sep 21, 2012 10:09 am

Rick, I assumed that you didn't collect the Blackstone for the same reason you said you didn't collect the Cushion or Barrel (or Meadowbrook?) -- that you found them too small to wear.

The "defect" you mentioned I have also noticed, but it has never bothered me. Also, it's pretty hard to see at all without magnification!

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